Next, I am curious if there are any precautions to follow that eliminate any chance of the top falling down? I can't remember if our old Belvue had any sort of system ( way back in the 70's ! ). Is it in the 1300 to 1400 lb range ( I will be towing with a compact car rated at a maximum of 2000lb )? ![]() My first question is about the GVW of an 8 ft Clipper. I have a couple of basic " starter" questions for the forum, so please excuse me if this is posted in the wrong spot. My family camped in a Belvue pop up years ago, and now that I am semi-retired I am anxious to get camping again. ![]() I am looking at 2004 model ( 8 ft ) and it has the end support bars, so perhaps it is only the newer This question ( about reliability/ quality ) of the Coleman clipper comes at a great time for me, as I am close to closing a deal on one. Since we had to replace it, we opted for a shorter, lighter pup with the same amenities. :) We tow with a Honda Odyssey and were pushing the towing limit with the Westlake especially since our twins are now 16, versus 5 when we got the Westlake. the Clipper water heater has electronic ignition, way easier than sending my husband out to relight the on the Westlake. We chose the 105 ST because it had the features we enjoyed on the Westlake-front storage box, cassette toilet and shower, outside shower and water heater. We are mindful of the cables when collapsing the camper that they do not get caught anywhere. I think the Coachmen bunks ends lock into place easier, but it has queen beds versus king on the Westlake. In terms of set up, he says not much difference in terms of work or ease. ![]() My husband, an engineer, was intrigued by the Coachmen system. The Westlake had the poles to hold up the bunk end, and they were attached to the camper so we never had to worry about leaving them behind. It replaced a 2004 Fleetwood Westlake that was totaled in an accident.
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